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Old 07-06-2008, 01:40 AM   #76
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do you think a 16 - 18 year old will understand that Julia Roberts is the hottest young female star, comparable to a Scarlette Johanson today?


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do you think a 16 - 18 year old will understand that Julia Roberts is the hottest young female star, comparable to a Scarlette Johanson today?
Holds up for ME, I should say. Cannot speak for 16-18 year olds, but, I'll say this: If we're talking about people like PFan and LemonMacPhisto, yes, they'd get it.


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Old 07-06-2008, 01:44 AM   #78
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and to all you Sweet Hereafter fans

Ian Holm is not Baggo Billgo, or what ever
but the great British Actor that made "Game, Set, Match" an amazing BBC mini-series to watch



and speaking of S H

I will also recommend Atom Egoyan's "Exotica"

it has a creep factor to it
but, things are not always what they seem.


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Old 07-06-2008, 01:46 AM   #79
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Holds up for ME, I should say. Cannot speak for 16-18 year olds, but, I'll say this: If we're talking about people like PFan and LemonMacPhisto, yes, they'd get it.

I think it was LMP that gave it a mediocre review.


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and to all you Sweet Hereafter fans

Ian Holm is not Baggo Billgo, or what ever
but the great British Actor that made "Game, Set, Match" an amazing BBC mini-series to watch



and speaking of S H

I will also recommend Atom Egoyan's "Exotica"

it has a creep factor to it
but, things are not always what they seem.
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Ian Holm is the lead actor in the Sweet Hereafter, and played Bilbo Baggins in The LOTR. He's also Sam Massibini in Chariots of Fire. Yes! He's whatever role we most liked him in. Game, Set and Match are three great books by Len Deighton, turned into that miniseries. Better than Ludlum's stuff, not as good as LeCarre.

But you know that.

I've seen Exotica. Uncomfortable, but enjoyed it.


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I think it was LMP that gave it a mediocre review.
Does not mean that he did not know that Julia Roberts was box office gold at one point.


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Old 07-06-2008, 02:10 AM   #82
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Does not mean that he did not know that Julia Roberts was box office gold at one point.
I know he knows that and much more




A lot of people will not get the irony of Buck Henry (the Graduate) pleading a pitch, etc.

I like The Player

at the time, I thought it was brilliant.


but, I think is had more impact when it was more current.


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I think it was LMP that gave it a mediocre review.
I gave The Player around 7/8 stars and really enjoyed it, if I remember correctly. The Graduate joke worked since I had just seen that film recently before that, too. Julia Roberts and Bruce Willis both showing up for free in a movie at that point must've been huge.

I was surprised at how much of it seemed like it was current... especially with Peter Gallagher's character showing up and trying to phase out writers and the whole development of the "Habeus Corpus" storyline.


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Ian Holm is the lead actor in the Sweet Hereafter, and played Bilbo Baggins in The LOTR. He's also Sam Massibini in Chariots of Fire. Yes! He's whatever role we most liked him in. Game, Set and Match are three great books by Len Deighton, turned into that miniseries. Better than Ludlum's stuff, not as good as LeCarre.

But you know that.

I've seen Exotica. Uncomfortable, but enjoyed it.
You enjoyed it.

Did you think it was an excellent film?
I did.

Because you realy don't know where the story is going. I think each actor ends up not being what I first thought they were.

You are a book reader. I am not.

I just think the small supporting role in LOTR is not representative of Holm's great acting range. And I have seen him in many other films, too.
Sweet Hereafter, is the film i think he is best in.
GSM is the work,in which I enjoyed him the most.


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Ian Holm also kicks ass as Ash in Alien, this shouldn't be left unsaid.


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I gave The Player around 7/8 stars and really enjoyed it, if I remember correctly. The Graduate joke worked since I had just seen that film recently before that, too. Julia Roberts and Bruce Willis both showing up for free in a movie at that point must've been huge.

I was surprised at how much of it seemed like it was current... especially with Peter Gallagher's character showing up and trying to phase out writers and the whole development of the "Habeus Corpus" storyline.
I am getting old

I must have got confused. Sorry.


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I am getting old

I must have got confused. Sorry.
No worries.

If I give anything a 5 or above, I at least liked it, to varying degrees of course. 7/8's fairly high for me.


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Game Set Match

got a 9.5/10 on IMDB.COM

so, I am not alone


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I gave The Player around 7/8 stars and really enjoyed it, if I remember correctly. The Graduate joke worked since I had just seen that film recently before that, too. Julia Roberts and Bruce Willis both showing up for free in a movie at that point must've been huge.

I was surprised at how much of it seemed like it was current... especially with Peter Gallagher's character showing up and trying to phase out writers and the whole development of the "Habeus Corpus" storyline.

you gave it some stars

I think it was your last sentence, that left me with the impression, of less than enthusiastic.


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The Player ***1/2

This was my first Altman flick, which may seem like blasphemy to people named Laz, but that's okay. Aside from being an "industry" flick with loads of actor cameos (most of which are unscripted), the film centers on Tim Robbins as a movie exec being stalked by a vengeful writer. He confronts a guy who he thinks is doing it and kills him, only to find out he's killed the wrong man. Altman fills this with tons of references to other films (the 8 minute-long opening shot references Welles' Touch of Evil and Hitchcock's Rope; the camera lingers on shots of posters of movies that give insight to the film's plot - things that hardcore cinephiles would pick up on and appreciate). I enjoyed this film, from a directing and performance standpoint, but would only recommend this to people who are familiar with cinema or dig movies about the film industry.
I would recommend

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I was just joking when I referred to Holm as Bilbo. He's had many other impressive roles.

Also, I second deep's recommendation of Exotica. Along with Cronenberg, Atom Egoyan has made some of the better films to come out of the Canadian film industry.

I can also see a little where deep is coming from. Bruce Willis and Julia Roberts were two of the big names of that late 80's-early 90's period. Are they recognizable to a lot of people still? Sure. But Julia barely works anymore, and Willis does much more supporting parts than leads now. I'd also say that most viewers didn't even know who Buck Henry was back when the film came out, or even what Touch of Evil was. I think the film was made, as LMP suggested, for people who know a bit more about cinema.

What really dates the film is Greta Scacchi in the female lead.


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